Debbie O. Fennell
Oct 11 2007, 07:09 PM
This figures , wait till Vince gets inducted and NOT show him on the CMA Awards Show.
Found this on CMT,
CMA Awards Show Will Not Spotlight Hall of Fame Inductees
Breaking with a long tradition, the CMA Awards show will no longer recognize the new inductees into the Country Music Hall of Fame. Instead, the honorees -- who this year are Vince Gill, Mel Tillis and Ralph Emery -- will be formally inducted during invitation-only medallion ceremonies held at the Country Music Hall of Fame and Museum.
Officials of the Country Music Association say there are no plans to acknowledge the inductees during the Nov. 7 awards show telecast on ABC.
"We didn't feel like we have time to give [the inductees] justice on the awards show," said a spokesperson for the CMA, whose electors choose Hall of Fame members.
In years past, the ceremony in which medallions are awarded to new inductees was held in May of the year following the formal induction. The official induction into the Hall of Fame took place during the broadcast portion of the CMA Awards. Because of the separation from the show, this year's medallion event will be held Oct. 28.
In another wrinkle, new members to the Hall of Fame will be announced early each year, possibly in January, one source said. This will enable the induction ceremony to revert to May.
SRobin
Oct 11 2007, 08:01 PM
QUOTE(Debbie O. Fennell @ Oct 11 2007, 07:09 PM)

This figures , wait till Vince gets inducted and NOT show him on the CMA Awards Show.
Found this on CMT,
CMA Awards Show Will Not Spotlight Hall of Fame Inductees
Breaking with a long tradition, the CMA Awards show will no longer recognize the new inductees into the Country Music Hall of Fame. Instead, the honorees -- who this year are Vince Gill, Mel Tillis and Ralph Emery -- will be formally inducted during invitation-only medallion ceremonies held at the Country Music Hall of Fame and Museum.
Officials of the Country Music Association say there are no plans to acknowledge the inductees during the Nov. 7 awards show telecast on ABC.
"We didn't feel like we have time to give [the inductees] justice on the awards show," said a spokesperson for the CMA, whose electors choose Hall of Fame members.
In years past, the ceremony in which medallions are awarded to new inductees was held in May of the year following the formal induction. The official induction into the Hall of Fame took place during the broadcast portion of the CMA Awards. Because of the separation from the show, this year's medallion event will be held Oct. 28.
In another wrinkle, new members to the Hall of Fame will be announced early each year, possibly in January, one source said. This will enable the induction ceremony to revert to May.
I thought the same thing Debbie. Now that it's time for Vince to be inducted all of a sudden they have this major overhaul. Why can't they at least acknowledge that the inductees were given a formal induction at the HOF prior to the CMA shows, but yet acknowledge them by having them stand up and at least have the CMA audience recognize their contributions to country music on national tv. Something is not right with the way they are doing this.
Maggie
Oct 11 2007, 08:29 PM
Although I wish the CMA's would continue to honor the HOF inductees as part of their tv broadcast, as they used to do with decent coverage years ago,now I feel it's almost an insult to rush and just give the inductees a fast pan of the camera. I am thankful that WSM-AM will be broadcasting the actual Medallion ceremony. This should be a wonderful celebration with lots of musical pairings and tributes.
Vince has had an extroidinary past year or so and I am so happy that he is going into the Hall of Fame (and secretly glad he's getting in before Garth).
Maggie
countrycrazy
Oct 11 2007, 09:19 PM
I think it's a slap in the face to all country music fans to not include something to honor the Hall of Fame Inductees. Heck, they could cut out a few performances in order to honor the new HOF members. They've already managed to cut out some of the awards during the show...they're handed out before the actual ceremony, so why can't the just cut out some of the performances?! Heck, maybe the HOF should have their *own* broadcast on CMT or GAC to honor the inductees if the CMA isn't going to bother anymore. I'd much rather see a tribute to the inductees than some of the performances that are aired...
grissy74
Oct 11 2007, 09:42 PM
I agree Val. I'm very disappointed in their decision. These artists have brought so much to country music. They deserve to be given adequate time to be recognized, and speak for a few minutes. I would much rather see less performances, and have the inductees for this year and future years honored at the awards.
SRobin
Oct 11 2007, 11:34 PM
QUOTE(countrycrazy @ Oct 11 2007, 09:19 PM)

I think it's a slap in the face to all country music fans to not include something to honor the Hall of Fame Inductees. Heck, they could cut out a few performances in order to honor the new HOF members. They've already managed to cut out some of the awards during the show...they're handed out before the actual ceremony, so why can't the just cut out some of the performances?! Heck, maybe the HOF should have their *own* broadcast on CMT or GAC to honor the inductees if the CMA isn't going to bother anymore. I'd much rather see a tribute to the inductees than some of the performances that are aired...
I think it's a slap in the face as well Valerie. You brought up a great point, if they don't want to recognize these Hall of Famers who have contributed their talents through the years to country music on the CMA show, then it would be great if the actual HOF induction ceremonies could be taped and aired on both CMT and GAC. They tape and air the Rock and Roll HOF ceremonies, why not the country music HOF one as well.
Rockinreggie
Oct 12 2007, 02:52 AM
Once again another bad decision by those in management. Without being too rude this is a load of crap.
Anna Leighton
Oct 12 2007, 06:31 AM
QUOTE(Rockinreggie @ Oct 12 2007, 03:52 AM)

Once again another bad decision by those in management. Without being too rude this is a load of crap.
DITTO
carrie ann groves
Oct 12 2007, 12:48 PM
QUOTE(Anna Leighton @ Oct 12 2007, 06:31 AM)

DITTO

Hi there vg fans yeah me to.I agree also.waited to see vince to get inductee to get that big awards .it's not far to us vg fans who's loves vince . the turds lol!!!!!

how about you ? you take care carrie ann
Rachel
Oct 12 2007, 04:40 PM
ditto from me too. this is so unfair and disappointing
khumphrey
Oct 12 2007, 05:27 PM
I also agree that this is very sad!!! I was really looking forward to them honoring Vince on what they always call, "Country's biggest night"!!! I really feel it is a disservice to country music fans. Without the people that are getting inducted country music would not be what is today! I also agree that if it is a time issue some performances should be cut in order to honor these great people. This is such an honor for Vince, Ralph and Mel and it deserves some air time!!!!!! How sad that the people that make these decisions don't see that......I wish there was something we could do to change their minds!!!
Krissie
Mary Anne
Oct 12 2007, 05:33 PM
In the past few years all they have done is say who the inductees were and the inductees waved from the audience. There were numerous complaints about how the HOF inductees were slighted. They used to annuonce the HOF inductees during the CMA show itself and that was a total surprise to the inductees. Ever since they stopped doing it that way the inductees have been slighted at the CMA show.
Anna Leighton
Oct 12 2007, 05:56 PM
To sad
Hilary
Oct 14 2007, 09:01 PM
I'm beginning to like the CMAs even less... and I totally agree, there are FAR too many bad performances by mediocre artists. This news is just the pits!
gillgirl
Oct 15 2007, 05:40 AM
I agree The Hall Of Fame is a great Honor why can't they tape the awards part and air it at another date?? Alot of the Acts they show any more are not even Country. I am Happy Vince Made it before Garth aslo!! Well not much we can do about Vince getting Riped Off, just sit back and watch the show. gillgirl IN PA.
Debbie O. Fennell
Oct 15 2007, 07:29 AM
I'm sure they've already made their decision, but why can't we just send a little not letting the CMA know of our disappointment. Gotta go to work, but when I find the link to notify them, I'll post it unless somebody else finds it first. Hint Hint
Here's part of the CMA Vision Statement that I found and I believe that it is SO appropriate to having Vince a part of the show this year.
CMA is dedicated to bringing the poetry and emotion of
country music to the world.
We will continue a tradition of leadership and professionalism,
promoting the music and recognizing excellence in all its forms
I think that pretty much says that Vince, Ralph, and Mel should be on the show.
Carolyn
Oct 16 2007, 07:37 PM
QUOTE(Debbie O. Fennell @ Oct 15 2007, 07:29 AM)

I'm sure they've already made their decision, but why can't we just send a little not letting the CMA know of our disappointment. Gotta go to work, but when I find the link to notify them, I'll post it unless somebody else finds it first. Hint Hint
Here's part of the CMA Vision Statement that I found and I believe that it is SO appropriate to having Vince a part of the show this year.
CMA is dedicated to bringing the poetry and emotion of
country music to the world.
We will continue a tradition of leadership and professionalism,
promoting the music and recognizing excellence in all its forms
I think that pretty much says that Vince, Ralph, and Mel should be on the show.
Sorry for previous post - goofed.
I agree with all your comments. This is very disappointing to hear.
momlovesvg
Oct 16 2007, 08:57 PM
you have to remember that this decison comes from the same geniuses who nominated the dixie chicks for group of the year this year!
how much country radio success did they have compared to toby keith, trace adkins and others that weren't nominated???
it is such bad timing because not only our pal vince.....but in the years to come there will be more an dmore popular people like reba, randy travis, garth, etc that are more current and many people want to see. i can sorta understand this decision if made 8 years ago.....some times they were people that even as a longtime, loyal, huge fan of country music....i just wasn't interested in.
the cma's are just another reminder that the cma's , record labels and the industry in general is all about the money instead of th emusic an dwhat the fans want.
Lady Gill
Oct 16 2007, 09:30 PM
I think to that Vince should have been honored on cma awards.
I really don't think its right, i wonder if it wil be put on tv some other night. I didn't think they would to that to us fans,
love ya, Shirl.
countrycrazy
Oct 17 2007, 12:03 AM
It wasn't the show's producers who nominated the Chicks for group of the year, it was the CMA voters that are made up of people in the country music 'biz', including artists, record label heads, producers, DJs, programmers, etc. I didn't see who all were nominated for group of the year, but it's also possible that there really weren't that many nominees available in that category, especially since Alabama isn't touring anymore, and even though the Oak Ridge Boys are still out there touring and performing, they haven't had much success lately, either, and they're probably less known by DJs and people in radio than the Chicks are. There are a lot of factors that go into who gets nominated...and lets not forget that Rascal Flatts has that award won before the awards are even counted, so the Dixie Chicks even being nominated is just a formality because they need another group in that category to fill up the category with nominees. Just like B&D have the Duo Award won before the show even airs...about the only duo who might come close to overtaking B&D is Montgomery Gentry, but lets face it, B&D have had much more success than MG.
momlovesvg
Oct 18 2007, 07:17 PM
well, then in that case why not the eagles, no doubt and heck...why not the beatles??? just having somone to fill a spot is not a reason for the chicks to be there. there are plenty of actual country acts who respect the industry who coulda been nominated.
i have nno doubt that there was some cross planning with the nominees and the need for ratings. moving theshow to new york is another trick they have used.
now i read on cmt that jamie foxx and the eagles wil be there!!! rediculous! no vince, but jamie fox??
it's all about money and ratings!
mamabear
Oct 18 2007, 08:57 PM
QUOTE(momlovesvg @ Oct 18 2007, 08:17 PM)

well, then in that case why not the eagles, no doubt and heck...why not the beatles??? just having somone to fill a spot is not a reason for the chicks to be there. there are plenty of actual country acts who respect the industry who coulda been nominated.
i have nno doubt that there was some cross planning with the nominees and the need for ratings. moving theshow to new york is another trick they have used.
now i read on cmt that jamie foxx and the eagles wil be there!!! rediculous! no vince, but jamie fox??
it's all about money and ratings!
I sure agree.I will not watch at all.They treat Vince lousy and I don't like most of the hot shot acts out there now anyway.Even Reba has not picked Vince to duet with that night.How sad that it's all about money .They get away with it because people just keep watching and that brings them more money! yucK!! hugs mamabear
countrycrazy
Oct 18 2007, 09:10 PM
And Rascal Flatts actually gets to perform twice (once as the opening act, then again with Jamie Foxx), while others, like Vince won't be performing at all.
Anna Leighton
Oct 23 2007, 07:09 PM
This CMA broadcast would be the one for someone , like Alan Jackson , to mention

the Hall of Fame inductees as he did when they wouldn't allow George Jones to sing the whole song .
Debbie O. Fennell
Oct 23 2007, 08:43 PM
Here's where you can send an e-mail to voice your opinion about Vince.
marketing@CMAworld.com
Thanks Val!
mamabear
Oct 23 2007, 11:53 PM
QUOTE(Debbie O. Fennell @ Oct 23 2007, 09:43 PM)

Here's where you can send an e-mail to voice your opinion about Vince.
marketing@CMAworld.com
Thanks Val!
I sent a E-mail thanks for the link mamabear
grissy74
Oct 24 2007, 07:36 AM
I also sent in a comment Val. I can't believe the way they are treating Vince. If it wasn't for him being nominated, and seeing him at those times, I wouldn't even watch the show.
Anna Leighton
Oct 24 2007, 08:15 AM
I sent my e-mail in and I intend to write a letter too.
countrycrazy
Oct 24 2007, 03:50 PM
YW, guys, but you also need to thank Joyce, because she's the one who passed the info on to me.
grissy74
Oct 24 2007, 04:55 PM
Thanks to you also Joyce.
khumphrey
Oct 24 2007, 05:01 PM
Thanks for the link.....I just sent off my email!!! I hope they read them and take them all to heart. Also, hopefully a lot of people will send one so our voice is heard!!!! Even if it they don't change their mind at least they will know how we feel about and at least we are trying!!!!
Krissie
Debbie O. Fennell
Oct 25 2007, 03:55 PM
Thank you too Joyce!
In my e-mail, I mentioned that we know it's not as important to Vince to be recognized publicly on the show, but to us, it is VERY important. Not slighting Vince, but we all know that it's not HIS top priority to be praised and recognized publicly, but hey, we all feel that way for you enough Vince. You should be noticed, praised, in awe of, recognized, etc. by everybody, not just us.
Anna Leighton
Oct 29 2007, 06:47 AM
After watching a tape of the 2003 CMA'S I just had to post this . Brooks and Dunn won duo of the year and they were not going to be announced or shown getting the award and Vince said he thought that was wrong so he gave them the award while the show was being aired .
Debbie O. Fennell
Oct 29 2007, 02:08 PM
Thanks for noting that Anna, wonder what Vince thinks about his award? I'm sure he wouldn't speak out even if he felt slighted about himself, but he would note for Mel and Ralph.
annat856
Oct 30 2007, 02:36 PM
QUOTE(Debbie O. Fennell @ Oct 29 2007, 03:08 PM)

Thanks for noting that Anna, wonder what Vince thinks about his award? I'm sure he wouldn't speak out even if he felt slighted about himself, but he would note for Mel and Ralph.
Hi guys I haven't been on here for awhile. I can't believe the CMA award show is doing this. I'm soooo angry!

I just sent an email as well.The artists must have no idea that this is being left out this year, just listen to all the messages artists have left on this site offering congrats to Vince they all sound like they can't wait to see him there( at the CMA's)
and see him being honored for all he's done for Country Music.
I'm thrilled he's in the Hall of Fame; but I never thought I'd be deprived of getting to see him honored. I feel cheated. My all time favorite singer in the Hall of fame and then he gets slighted!
Mary Anne
Oct 30 2007, 03:00 PM
While I think the CMA show should acknowledge the new HOF members,, I have to disagree with those who think they are not being "nonored" or respected. In the past, the actual induction to the HOF did take place during the CMA show, but it was not a "lengthy" portion and they weren't allowed a whole lot ot time for their acceptance speech. The past couple of years all the new inductees did were to wave from the audience or allowed maybe a mnute to speak. The way it was done this year, each new member got the well deserved recogniton and respect from their peers and others- and were given much more time than than anyone else ever got on the CMA show. Just my two cents.
annat856
Oct 30 2007, 03:12 PM
QUOTE(Mary Anne @ Oct 30 2007, 04:00 PM)

While I think the CMA show should acknowledge the new HOF members,, I have to disagree with those who think they are not being "nonored" or respected. In the past, the actual induction to the HOF did take place during the CMA show, but it was not a "lengthy" portion and they weren't allowed a whole lot ot time for their acceptance speech. The past couple of years all the new inductees did were to wave from the audience or allowed maybe a mnute to speak. The way it was done this year, each new member got the well deserved recogniton and respect from their peers and others- and were given much more time than than anyone else ever got on the CMA show. Just my two cents.
You're right that the HOF inductees did get honored in a very nice ceremony. But the thing is; for the fans, the CMA awards show is when we got to see the new inductees. We are used to the tradition and it's a time to tie in the new award recipients with the past legends that have gone before them. Country music has a long and treasured history of which tradition is very important. Cutting out the HOF portion is like thumbing their noses at the past and only honoring the new. It's a sad day indeed.
JBC
Oct 30 2007, 05:24 PM
The problem with the medallion ceremony is the fans don't get to see it, it's a private invited audience. I don't know why they can't arrange to show it at a later date on another program. I don't know if it's TVs fault or if the Hall just doesn't want to give up their rights to it.
Joan
gillgirl
Oct 31 2007, 05:37 AM
I don't even know if I will watch the CMA'S I can't believe no Vince. Do you think they will even say Porter passed away ???? They give air time for what they want !! This hall of Fame is special for Vince How could they do this?? gillgirl IN PA.
JBC
Oct 31 2007, 10:24 AM
Right now I don't plan to watch the CMA's unless they add Vince to the lineup. I can't see watching just to see a peak of Vince sitting in the audience. I doubt very much anybody will mention Porter at all.
Joan
momlovesvg
Oct 31 2007, 10:35 AM
i hear they're going to have rascall flatts sing a 3rd song with britney spears to honor porter wagoner.
countrycrazy
Oct 31 2007, 03:52 PM
QUOTE(momlovesvg @ Oct 31 2007, 11:35 AM)

i hear they're going to have rascall flatts sing a 3rd song with britney spears to honor porter wagoner.
I know you've GOT to be joking on this one...! Anybody but Britany Spears, PLEASE!
mamabear
Oct 31 2007, 04:20 PM
QUOTE(momlovesvg @ Oct 31 2007, 11:35 AM)

i hear they're going to have rascall flatts sing a 3rd song with britney spears to honor porter wagoner.
I hope this is not true! What a insult that would be to Porter.And Putting her on that show but ignoring Vince,mel and Ralph Would only be a slap in the face For all Country artists.CMT has turned their backs on Country music so they can rake in the money.A lot of the artists are not even Country music in any way lol But Boy That would be the final slap.I love all kinds of music but this is supposed to be Countrys Finest? Give me a break It's not the finest without Vince there.The others are no where as talented as our Vince.I don't care how much money they pull in.I won't be watching... mamabear
JBC
Oct 31 2007, 04:45 PM
WHAT! You have to be joking. That can't possibly be true. The CMA's are going downhill fast but they can't possibly do that and make us take them seriously.
Joan
TechnicolourDreams
Nov 1 2007, 04:54 AM
QUOTE(momlovesvg @ Oct 31 2007, 11:35 AM)

i hear they're going to have rascall flatts sing a 3rd song with britney spears to honor porter wagoner.
Please tell me that's a sick joke
grissy74
Nov 1 2007, 07:31 AM
As much as I am disappointed with them for not adding Vince as a performer, and slighting the Hall of Famers, if they don't in some way mention Porter that adds insult to injury. As for Brittany Spears, I hope that is just a rumor. That would be in such poor taste, I can't believe it.
momlovesvg
Nov 1 2007, 12:40 PM
hmmm...sorry about that. i forgot the haha after. just shows what the cma has become. maybe jessica simpson would be even more believable.
sorry.....i know 2 rf songs is bad enough.
Was that supposed to be your little joke? I find it in very poor taste. Sorry. JMO
Joan
momlovesvg
Nov 2 2007, 11:42 AM
yeah....it was a joke. i said it was. i said i was sorry......didn't mean to cause a big scene or be disrespectful in any way.
just makin a point about how rediculous it is that rf sings twice (once with jamie foxx) but the hof members get forgotten.
that's all.....sorry if i offended you. but i think a sense of humor can be wonderful thing.
Anna Leighton
Nov 7 2007, 07:51 AM
Article by Hazel Smith of CMT Hot Dish . At least we know we weren't off base with our objections .
http://www.cmt.com/news/articles/1572364/2...ill_vince.jhtml
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